I am not shocked by any of this, because it's the same old crap. However, I can be disgusted. I used to watch, for the camp factor, mind you, Star Trek Enterprise. When they started torturing enemies on that show I was pretty mad at Dubya for contaminating even the relatively distant future. (Timewise, that might almost be like the return of the Alien and Sedition Act would be for us. Hmmm..... Maybe NOT so strange.)
An acquaintance of mine who had been in WW2 used to have as one of his prized posessions a Luftwaffe (or some German aviation organization) model aviation trophy. A small, but elegant object. He had befriended a German POW who wanted someone who appreciated it to have it, since the prisoner was sure it would eventually be stolen. This acquaintance told me that prisoners were often beaten, implying that it was for emotional reasons and not for information. Whether that was common, I have no idea. Donald Murray, not long ago, recounted a torture incident against a German prisoner from that war in his column in the Boston Globe. Many of us, I'm sure, if we are honest, can remember from childhood incidents of this sort of thing perpetrated upon or by ourselves, just for the hell of it. I know I can. Same old crap.
I think in our culture, and many others, there is a psychological continuity between many accepted practices and torture. It's widely accepted to violate someone's integrity by putting them in very unpleasant situations, particularly for children. These days, the coercion usually isn't very physical, but that doesn't make it easier to take. When one refuses to recognize or vigorously denies the legitimacy and worth of another person, I think that's verging into torture, whether done with physical means or not. And it happens all the time, even with those we love most in the world. Inherent, almost in our nature, as social beings who develop dominance heirarchies. No surprise at these other more overtly shocking events. I believe that much of the horror felt upon hearing the Vietnam POW stories, which I used to dread particularly, came from a mostly unconscious recognition. However, I think we may be just smart and self aware enough to minimize these tendencies if we really want to. Seems to me that many of us as UU's show signs of being on the right track on these issure. But not all of us, and not all the time.
How to convince people, such as kids, under one's own responsibility and care, to behave appropriately without tormenting them, I leave as an exercise for the reader. I have't seen it done often, but I'm convinced it's possible.
We also have a tendency to pretend that we don't recognize or understand the activities of perpetrators, as if we are not even the same species. This is a false comfort. If we are good, and I'm not sure that's a meaningful evaluation, it is not because we never want to do these things, but because we give more influence to and cultivate our desires not to do this things and our desires to help others..
I know I'm out on a limb here, and it's possible it's all baloney. I had no intention of going this far when I started writing, but I'm supposed to be doing something else, and that drives me. Remember that I don't oppose vigorously disputing someone else's ideas without denigrating their inherent worth as a person. (But I am not mature enough to make this distinction in all cases, I'm afraid. Just deleted a particularly poignant example which I decided serves no legitimate purpose. ) Also,never having had kids, I probably don't know enough of what I'm talking about. And I'm a weak man, without enough strength to come close to the ideals expressed above. I don't even intend to! My "smart" mouth is my strongest part. (metaphorically, ok?)
Is there any possibility you find out in the next episode that they beat a false confession out of the wrong guy? As I understand it, this happens all the time.
Len
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We were shocked at last night's episode of Blind Justice. The good guy blind cop beat a confession snip
On Apr 20, 2005, at 8:04 PM, anonymous wrote:
While the star does find a way to get the information, the emotions evoked are very strong and very negative toward those who would protect terrorist suspects from torture. snip